RacerX
Apr 3, 01:43 PM
Great post. I've heard of Pages by Pages, but I didn't think that Apple's Pages was a direct descendant. While I took programming classes in college on a NeXT box, I never used the app and thought it was more of a classic word processor.
A lot of people didn't give Pages a try back then... it was a little expensive ($795), and I was using FrameMaker for papers on NeXT systems back then.
As for the rest of the discussion about comparing Pages to other apps...
I think it's absolutely fair to compare Pages to what else is out there...
What I see Pages as trying to do (again) is to define a new category.
I've seen the same thing happen with Create. When people try to do a toe-to-toe line up on some other app's specialty area, it is going to fall short. Compare Create to Illustrator in doing illustration and Illustrator wins... But it should, after all it is a dedicated illustration app, while Create is not. Compare Create to InDesign or QuarkXPress for page layout and those other apps win... But they should, after all they are dedicated layout apps. Further, all those dedicated apps cost far more than Create.
The problem is that most people hold up what is new to what they know. I think that if something like Create was held up to QuarkXPress looking at both apps illustration abilities, that would be just as fair. It is when we restrict these newer (to most people) apps to categories that they are not attempting to compete in directly that the comparisons fall far short.
I truly believe that apps like Pages and Create fill voids that exist in the software industry today. First, they don't cost as much as high end solutions. Second, they address some ranges of users which other companies try to force into high or low end apps. The gulf between the high end and low end has been getting larger over the years.
Pages lets people with little background make quality documents. Create provides a middle ground for people with experience that don't have the money or need for the top of the line professional apps.
Rather than pushing these into other categories, we should embrace these apps for filling these gaps in our (collective) software selection.
As I said, Pages, is not for me... but it is a solution for someone and I recognize that. And I sure don't need (or want) Apple to redefine it around my needs at the expense of those it is design to serve.
:rolleyes:
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that just because Pages isn't the app that some people want it to be doesn't make it a bad app or one that doesn't have it's place in the computing world.
A lot of people didn't give Pages a try back then... it was a little expensive ($795), and I was using FrameMaker for papers on NeXT systems back then.
As for the rest of the discussion about comparing Pages to other apps...
I think it's absolutely fair to compare Pages to what else is out there...
What I see Pages as trying to do (again) is to define a new category.
I've seen the same thing happen with Create. When people try to do a toe-to-toe line up on some other app's specialty area, it is going to fall short. Compare Create to Illustrator in doing illustration and Illustrator wins... But it should, after all it is a dedicated illustration app, while Create is not. Compare Create to InDesign or QuarkXPress for page layout and those other apps win... But they should, after all they are dedicated layout apps. Further, all those dedicated apps cost far more than Create.
The problem is that most people hold up what is new to what they know. I think that if something like Create was held up to QuarkXPress looking at both apps illustration abilities, that would be just as fair. It is when we restrict these newer (to most people) apps to categories that they are not attempting to compete in directly that the comparisons fall far short.
I truly believe that apps like Pages and Create fill voids that exist in the software industry today. First, they don't cost as much as high end solutions. Second, they address some ranges of users which other companies try to force into high or low end apps. The gulf between the high end and low end has been getting larger over the years.
Pages lets people with little background make quality documents. Create provides a middle ground for people with experience that don't have the money or need for the top of the line professional apps.
Rather than pushing these into other categories, we should embrace these apps for filling these gaps in our (collective) software selection.
As I said, Pages, is not for me... but it is a solution for someone and I recognize that. And I sure don't need (or want) Apple to redefine it around my needs at the expense of those it is design to serve.
:rolleyes:
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that just because Pages isn't the app that some people want it to be doesn't make it a bad app or one that doesn't have it's place in the computing world.
jholzner
Oct 10, 09:30 AM
If you ask me, it's pretty clear Apple will update all of its laptops before the holiday season. I personally can't wait to buy a new MB, because my 600 MHz G3 iMac is getting a bit sluggish. My question is this: Will it be a simple CPU upgrade, or will Apple change pricing and/or other hardware (such as HD capacity, RAM, etc.)? Oh, and how long do I have to wait?
Who knows? But, as long as it's taking them to get these procs in the portable line, one would hope it will be a more substantial update.
Who knows? But, as long as it's taking them to get these procs in the portable line, one would hope it will be a more substantial update.
shadrap
Feb 18, 07:52 PM
All the geniuses in that room and I am sure Obama still thought he was smartest.
ziwi
Nov 2, 09:56 AM
As long as they continue to produce innovative and quality products the marketshare will grow and then word of mouth or usage of a system will sustain it.
damado
Sep 20, 03:21 PM
So far I just did the first upgrade, went into windows and I'm at UDMA 5 now...was at UDMA 4 with the slipstreamed driver XP install. I still get 59MB/s which is good with the 160 stock HD.
notjustjay
May 5, 11:52 AM
No OSX, no sale? That is an idiotic statement. Tell that to 90% of the computer market. Tell me more about the post pc era.
Well, the point stands that some people are simply not open to the "other side" so these comparisons don't really matter to them.
If you insist on OS X then you're buying a Mac. You don't care about the "value" comparison because you have no choice but to buy a Mac. End of story.
If you insist on Windows then you're buying a PC. End of story.
(OK, not really -- it's possible to Hackintosh and install Windows on a Mac, but that's a very small minority of people.)
So these value comparisons are only useful to the subset of people saying "Well, I want a Mac... but I suppose a PC would do, too." Or vice versa. Arguably that's probably "many people" and possibly even "most people".
I've owned a Mac since 2003. Love them. Now I want something small and light. I am eyeing the 13" MacBook Air, and I want to take a serious look at the competition (e.g. Samsung Series 9). I've already owned, and sold, an Asus netbook. It had its uses, but in the end it didn't cut it.
Well, the point stands that some people are simply not open to the "other side" so these comparisons don't really matter to them.
If you insist on OS X then you're buying a Mac. You don't care about the "value" comparison because you have no choice but to buy a Mac. End of story.
If you insist on Windows then you're buying a PC. End of story.
(OK, not really -- it's possible to Hackintosh and install Windows on a Mac, but that's a very small minority of people.)
So these value comparisons are only useful to the subset of people saying "Well, I want a Mac... but I suppose a PC would do, too." Or vice versa. Arguably that's probably "many people" and possibly even "most people".
I've owned a Mac since 2003. Love them. Now I want something small and light. I am eyeing the 13" MacBook Air, and I want to take a serious look at the competition (e.g. Samsung Series 9). I've already owned, and sold, an Asus netbook. It had its uses, but in the end it didn't cut it.
Stuipdboy1000
Aug 19, 12:42 PM
3.2.1 has been pushed out from the App Store.
ejfontenot
Apr 2, 09:46 PM
Just sold my used 16g wifi, getting a white 32g 3G ATT from ms connection Tuesday. Anyone wanna trade this for an unopened black one?
gkarris
Apr 1, 12:11 PM
Not surpising at all. It's all about control of content and money.
All studios, rather music or movie have always hated the idea of selling content even though it makes them a ton of money. If they could do away with all of it, including DVD sells, they would. What they truly want is for you to pay a fee every time you want to view or listen to content and you never "own" anything period. Nothing physical at all to buy, just pay for it every time you view or listen.
Exactly.
In this case, the license is only for delivery to a cable box for viewing on a home TV set. Not for any "mobile" device or otherwise...
All studios, rather music or movie have always hated the idea of selling content even though it makes them a ton of money. If they could do away with all of it, including DVD sells, they would. What they truly want is for you to pay a fee every time you want to view or listen to content and you never "own" anything period. Nothing physical at all to buy, just pay for it every time you view or listen.
Exactly.
In this case, the license is only for delivery to a cable box for viewing on a home TV set. Not for any "mobile" device or otherwise...
puuukeey
Sep 1, 04:58 AM
how do they release the preview to developers and not let loose the super secret features? are all the super secret features all applications which don't need testing?
or will there be another round of betas?:confused: :confused: :confused:
or will there be another round of betas?:confused: :confused: :confused:
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DeSnousa
Apr 15, 10:13 PM
i don't think we can do 'pass it on' thing on this forum. but we do need more involvement.
i know a lot of people on this forum have some very nice computer power. and i'm sure they do use them 24/7 either. we could be a great team. i'm doing all i can already
Thats great, I'm doing all I can to at the moment. Might not be able to cope with all that PPD as it is a laptop doing it all :D My goal is to get to 100k in points then to get into the top 100 :)
Remember all those who join, team number is 3446.
i know a lot of people on this forum have some very nice computer power. and i'm sure they do use them 24/7 either. we could be a great team. i'm doing all i can already
Thats great, I'm doing all I can to at the moment. Might not be able to cope with all that PPD as it is a laptop doing it all :D My goal is to get to 100k in points then to get into the top 100 :)
Remember all those who join, team number is 3446.
gagebart
Mar 13, 10:41 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)
I live in Arizona and we don't follow daylight savings time, but my phone jumped an hour ahead. I'm on AT&T btw
I live in Arizona and we don't follow daylight savings time, but my phone jumped an hour ahead. I'm on AT&T btw
iSee
Sep 25, 10:51 AM
I'm not a photographer, so I don't understand the significance of this update, but I was surprised to see all of these integration improvements. Is integrating with Flickr or your iPod or keynote that useful to a pro? I'd have though these were things more of interest to an average Mac user trying to show off his vacation/baby photos.
Are you pros interested in these things? Or maybe Apple is trying to get the serious amateur interested in Aperture?
Are you pros interested in these things? Or maybe Apple is trying to get the serious amateur interested in Aperture?
willmtaylor
Apr 5, 09:45 AM
You should look up the definition of copyright.
Thank you so much for that interesting and insightful comment. You really added to the discussion.
Thank you so much for that interesting and insightful comment. You really added to the discussion.
normwood
Feb 24, 06:08 AM
No it is NOT Apple's fault. This is CLEARLY the parents fault.
Agreed.
Agreed.
-SD-
Jun 17, 03:14 AM
Yeah, there'll be a cheaper version of the S to replace the Arcade/Pro systems. It'll probably have a 120GB HDD and maybe even be glossy white, as white Kinects have been spotted.
:apple:
:apple:
Rt&Dzine
Apr 23, 02:45 PM
His past policies and statement do not jive with the Tea Party, and I cannot imagine where that association came from.
He's using the birther bit for publicity and attracting the flavor of the day (the Tea Party).
He's using the birther bit for publicity and attracting the flavor of the day (the Tea Party).
griz
Apr 5, 11:03 AM
Capacitive home button sounds believable as apple has gone away with buttons on the MacBooks trackpad. Apple likes touch, not clicking. Lol
Would be useless. Can you imagine gaming with this? The only way it would work would be if it required a two finger swipe or other gesture. Or swipe from the home button up to the screen. It it activated just by touch, the iPod would now be useless for gaming.
Would be useless. Can you imagine gaming with this? The only way it would work would be if it required a two finger swipe or other gesture. Or swipe from the home button up to the screen. It it activated just by touch, the iPod would now be useless for gaming.
tktaylor1
Mar 16, 11:41 PM
3.55 in Nashville for premium
3.40 for regular
3.40 for regular
MacRumors
Oct 26, 12:48 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)
Adobe has introduced a competitor to Apple's SoundTrack Pro dubbed SoundBooth (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/soundbooth/).
Try Adobe� Soundbooth™. Soundbooth is a brand new application built in the spirit of Sound Edit 16 and Cool Edit that provides the tools video editors, designers, and others who do not specialize in audio need to accomplish their everyday work such as:
-Editing audio quickly.
-Cleaning up noisy audio.
-Visually identifying and removing unwanted sounds.
-Recording and polishing voiceovers.
-Adding effects and filters.
-Easily creating customized music—without musical expertise.
Similar to Adobe's LightRoom (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060109021315.shtml) application, SoundBooth is beginning its life as a public beta. Adobe is offering the software in Windows and Intel-Mac versions, and Adobe specifically mentions that they will not be offering a PowerPC version of the software.
Apple is quickly moving its focus towards Intel Macs, and no longer sells Power PC systems in many places. By focusing on Apple's future, we have been able to bring this powerful application to the Mac platform much more rapidly, and with a stronger feature set.
Adobe's Intel Mac FAQ (http://www.adobe.com/products/pdfs/intelmacsupport.pdf) still lists many of its popular programs (such as Creative Suite) as being ported to be Universal applications in their next revisions.
SoundBooth should be available in mid-2007. Pricing is to be determined.
[ Digg This (http://www.digg.com/apple/Adobe_Announces_SoundBooth_SoundTrack_Pro_competitor_x86_Only) ]
Adobe has introduced a competitor to Apple's SoundTrack Pro dubbed SoundBooth (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/soundbooth/).
Try Adobe� Soundbooth™. Soundbooth is a brand new application built in the spirit of Sound Edit 16 and Cool Edit that provides the tools video editors, designers, and others who do not specialize in audio need to accomplish their everyday work such as:
-Editing audio quickly.
-Cleaning up noisy audio.
-Visually identifying and removing unwanted sounds.
-Recording and polishing voiceovers.
-Adding effects and filters.
-Easily creating customized music—without musical expertise.
Similar to Adobe's LightRoom (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060109021315.shtml) application, SoundBooth is beginning its life as a public beta. Adobe is offering the software in Windows and Intel-Mac versions, and Adobe specifically mentions that they will not be offering a PowerPC version of the software.
Apple is quickly moving its focus towards Intel Macs, and no longer sells Power PC systems in many places. By focusing on Apple's future, we have been able to bring this powerful application to the Mac platform much more rapidly, and with a stronger feature set.
Adobe's Intel Mac FAQ (http://www.adobe.com/products/pdfs/intelmacsupport.pdf) still lists many of its popular programs (such as Creative Suite) as being ported to be Universal applications in their next revisions.
SoundBooth should be available in mid-2007. Pricing is to be determined.
[ Digg This (http://www.digg.com/apple/Adobe_Announces_SoundBooth_SoundTrack_Pro_competitor_x86_Only) ]
robbieduncan
Sep 25, 10:55 AM
The site has been updated!
http://www.apple.com/aperture/
Direct link to the "What's New" page (http://www.apple.com/aperture/newfeatures/index.html)
http://www.apple.com/aperture/
Direct link to the "What's New" page (http://www.apple.com/aperture/newfeatures/index.html)
newagemac
Mar 24, 06:05 AM
You should check out Air Video (the iOS app). It's the best solution I've found and with iOS 4.3 it works great for streaming all the .avi and .mkv movies on my HD to my apple TV via my iPhone.
It goes (Air Video server on computer) -> iOS device -> Apple TV.
It was probably the best $2.99 I've ever spent.
Yep, this is an awesome app. You have to manually download the BETA version of Air Video Server for it to do Video Airplay though. The regular release does not support it.
It goes (Air Video server on computer) -> iOS device -> Apple TV.
It was probably the best $2.99 I've ever spent.
Yep, this is an awesome app. You have to manually download the BETA version of Air Video Server for it to do Video Airplay though. The regular release does not support it.
Desertrat
Apr 24, 12:55 PM
Ehhh, I'll go along with CalBoy.
I see Trump as a fascist, blow-hard alpha-male con artist. Might be okay to sit around and drink a few beers and swap lies, but that's about it.
His yap-yap on TV about oil and the Saudis was about as ignorant as you can get.
I see Trump as a fascist, blow-hard alpha-male con artist. Might be okay to sit around and drink a few beers and swap lies, but that's about it.
His yap-yap on TV about oil and the Saudis was about as ignorant as you can get.
arian19
Apr 12, 01:03 PM
I don't understand why it won't let you update, from the Help Menu > check for updates, in the app itself... why do i have to go to Microsofts website to get the update?
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